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3 Oct 2006, 10:50 PM
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Asalamalaikum, the war on Islam continues, xxlmag.com posts an article dissing Islam and muslim rapper lupe fiasco. Brothers and sisters should email the magazine and let them know we will be boycotting them, not because of the writer not liking Lupe but for the blatant disrespect of Islam.
Lupe Fiasco, jihadist An exploration of Islamic themes in Lupe Fiasco’s Food and Liquor. Posted In: Columnists, Bol's Saturday Night Workout by Byron Crawford Not that it matters much anymore, with Lupe Fiasco seemingly destined to fade into obscurity and end up the answer to some future mid-oughts trivia question about “skateboard rap,” but for a while there it was interesting to think about: If Lupe Fiasco had become a mega-star on the order of, say, a Kanye West, America would’ve found itself in the odd position of having an avowed devout Muslim pop star while simultaneously enmeshed in a war with Islamic fascism. Which would’ve been pretty weird, if you think about it. I can hardly think of an historic precedent for such a scenario. Not to attempt to draw any parallels (because I’m sure there aren’t any), but as far as I know, there weren’t any big jazz records made Nazis during World War II. And, as amusing as it would have been, I’m pretty sure there was never any Viet Cong equivalent of the Eagles during the final stages of Vietnam. Indeed, there haven’t been very many Muslim pop stars one way or the other. American Idol’s own Paula Abdul is ostensibly an Arab of some sort, but I doubt she gets down on her knees for anything other than to blow that Puerto Rican guy she was allegedly involved with. Cat Stevens hit it big in the ’70s with songs like “Baby, It’s a Wild World” and the now-ironic “Peace Train,” but I don’t think he got serious about Islam until after his career had jumped the shark. To be sure, plenty of rappers have professed an allegiance to “Calypso” Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam as well as its even more bizarre prison gang-oriented offshoot the Five Percenters. But it’s not like anyone other than the ADL considers them a real religion of any significance, and that’s because they’re always looking for someone to beef with as a matter of political strategy. From what I understand, based on my reading of his lackluster Food and Liquor as well a lot of the press leading up to its release, Lupe Fiasco considers himself an adherent of the Cat Stevens school of Islam more so than the Rakim school, to put it in terms of washed up musicians. If he disagrees, he’s certainly free to talk management into allowing him to unleash another torrent of ad hominems on yours truly like he did a few weeks ago. For a guy who hardly ever curses, let alone drops the dreaded n-bomb, I think people were surprised to see him go off like that. But that’s the thing about Islam: It’s a self-proclaimed religion of peace that just so happens to have a 1400 year history of violence. They don’t particularly set out to do anything other than submit themselves to the will of Allah, but that usually ends up involving wiring some poor child with explosives and sending him forth into a crowd of infidels. Does Lupe Fiasco consider himself the equivalent of a suicide bomber sent to rid the rap world of a few infidels (metaphorically speaking at least)? When you think about it, his album does seem filled with that kind of rhetoric. He speaks of the images of champagne and bling bling so often projected in hip-hop the same way that Islamic fascists speak of American culture in general and, in particular, the “MTV culture” that they view as such a threat to Muslim youth. And his claim that he once hated hip-hop because of the way women were treated (presumably before he became a gat-toting crack slinger?) seems ripe for further inspection beyond declaring his views “refreshing.” Muslims, after all, aren’t exactly known for being progressive when it comes to that sort of thing. Does he find that the depiction of women in rap lyrics is especially harsh vis a vis other genres of music or is the thought of a woman in revealing attire alone enough to set him off? Ironically, the myriad issues raised by Lupe Fiasco’s Food and Liquor are a lot more interesting than the actual music contained therein. In that sense, I suppose it’s too bad he doesn’t seem poised to have much of a viable career as a recording artist. That said, I’m sure I’ll find something else to write about. |
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3 Oct 2006, 11:59 PM
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![]() MHH Veteren ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 919 Joined: 20-February 06 From: Manchester - UK Member No.: 34 Gender: Female |
wa alaykum asalaam..jazakallah khair for the increasing the awareness brother...
ah man that was horrible...wut an ignorant fool...that made me skin crawl subhanAllah.. here's some interestin comments made regardin that article (taken from the site) i tried my best to take out the cursin (there was an awful lot) but yeh: Ali Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:09 am Bol will your Lupe bashing ever end? This is some of the most stereotypical ish ive ever heard, black people have had to face more than enough ignorance and prejudice themselves. So for you attack a muslim and muslim culture in general is frankly ****** up. You should be ashamed of yourself. Bling Nasty Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:10 am that must have been one of the most ignorant posts i have ever read read up on islam first bol then act like you know what you are talkin about The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:11 am some people hate(Jay-z)after reading this articlei believe that you are a true patriotyou bleed red, white, and bluestrap up your army boots and join the war machine in the quest for world dominationLupe doing him and it seems your going out of your way to assasinate his characterbut your just coming off as a hater BolLupe brings balance to the sceneim sure you rather listen to U2 The DJ Formerly Known as N-CREDIBLE Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:15 am and its obvious youve been brainwashed by the media in the image they paint of our brothers over in the middle east Enlightened Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:30 am No parallels? Have you ever heard of Muhammad Ali ****a? He was the most famous Black Man on the planet while being a Muslim. Rustyjux Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 11:38 am Unreal; youre reach farther than Mr. Fantastic! You need to get real. Your gripes are lame. Just another bitter negro mad at someone who more than likely slighted him taking potshots, but will more than likely clam up if you met the black belt artist in personlast time I checked, he was opening for Nas and Jay in the UK. obviously someone thinks hes got talent. Tell XXl to stop slobbing interscope artists and put someone else onthe the cover clown nile kid Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 12:39 pm look e and everybody out there i am an muslim egyptian guy but i was raised knowing cultures especially black culture and ilove hiphop but this ** named is stupid racist ** how could attack a religion which belives in jesus , virgin mary and all prophets just for blackballing an artist if u dont like lupe thats ok idont even a lupe fan and e u r saying tha krs-1 is crazy with all fairness thats o.k if krs-1 is crazy jada and nas and immortal techniqe aint and also bol by saying this ignornat things he is also spitting on malcolm x grave malcolm x was one a muslim and was a great black leader who fought for the black rights and tried to erase this racial tensions in america when he converted to real islam and said that when he went to mecca it was the first time to call a white man his brother because islam is a religion based an love and kindness between all races and all people and thats why he got killed because of some ignorant ** just like bol and bush and every evil ** wants to make the image of islam to be dirty i hope all of you outthere to go against these stupid *** and by the way he is saying that muslims and arabs are terrorists but we ant the one who created the projects the crips and bloods and the kkk your media is being ambushed see whats is happening in palestine ,lebanon and iraq by these american weapons little children are getting slain by the american and zionists weapons just for no reason just for oil and to keep isreal on the map so who is the terrorists? daesonesb Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 12:54 pm >>Which wouldve been pretty weird, if you think about it. I can hardly think of an historic precedent for such a scenario. Not to attempt to draw any parallels (because Im sure there arent any), but as far as I know, there werent any big jazz records made Nazis during World War II. And, as amusing as it would have been, Im pretty sure there was never any Viet Cong equivalent of the Eagles during the final stages of Vietnam. You just fronted like naziism, communist viet kongs, and muslims were all similar evils. Think about it, the only reason that these groups have anything to do with eachother is that (in some sense) they are americas enemies. Come to think of it, only a minority of muslims are ACTUALLY americas enemies, but I digress. Think about it, Americas enemies only have one thing in common: that it was in the American interest to attack them. Say what you want about WWII, but we didnt do **** to the Nazis until the war hit our own turf. And Viet Nam? There was no real justification to that one at all. We know now that the attacks on American warships were falsified. Either way, you know that muslims arent even Americas enemy. A small portion of them are. Come to think of it the largest war we waged so far was against a secular government. Iraq anyone? Either way, painting all enemies of America as evil equating them with nazis (seriously, who the **** could try and draw parallels between muslims and nazis?) is ignorant. And I know Bol is educated, and so its becoming more and more obvious that you are just throwing out **** to see what sticks. Well remember ray earl? That is what your comment sections is gonn look like if you keep this **** up. A bunch of god damn ray earls. Then try to get a job as a real ** journalist. PalestinianSis Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 1:26 pm Please people, read and think before you post. You dont have to defend Islam by talking about molestation and degrading anyones mother. Mothers are holy in Islam. Check yourself. If you are secure and educated, as Nile Kid, you appear educated at least, then you just need to respond with a well thought-out argument. What distinguishes Bols tirade from the **** I can catch on Fox News? Not much. Its funny, the one thing thats missing in this whole debate is no-one wants to see Islam as an incredibly complicated and diverse religion. Islam is the worlds second biggest religion, the number one fastest growing and yall can only come up with two images? Islamic fascism or peaceful Islam - why try and argue between these two images when all you have to say, is if Christianity can give us liberation theology (Cornel West, MLK), and the KKK, then why cant we expect Islam is similiarly diverse? Has been twisted and reshaped and is influenced by politics, culture and economics? Islam does not equal Arab, nor do Arabs equal Islam. Paula Abduls father was an Arab JEW. And the most populous Muslim country is INDONESIA. As for orthodox Muslim rappers that pre-date Lupe. Camp Lo are Muslims, or are they only Muslims if theyre conforming to Bols fantasy-land where Muslims sing about killing women and burning infidels? Jean Graes dad is Muslim. Maybe Bol is getting confused, because he thinks he can recognize a Muslim by pulling up their shirt and doing a bomb-check? Bol, you need an editor and a history lesson. Salahadeen Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 2:06 pm Salam Alakum, Us muslims arent suprised by this article at all, actually, it was expected. The american media has hypnotized you to the point where everything you think is controlled. Now comes along Lupe Fiasco, a muslim, and you bash him because bill oreilly told you too. Use your own brain and listen to his words, is it true about the diamonds? isint american society the worst society in the world? if you dont think these type of things then your not an intellectual, and have absolutely no knowledge of anything. Please do you research and stop letting corporate news tell lies to you. Salam Alakum. mr. shahid Says: October 3rd, 2006 at 3:48 pm real stupid of u mos def - muslim freeway - muslim dave chapelle - muslim q -tip - muslim islam has probably had more real influence in hip hop than your average jeasus piece with diamonds in em read something before spouting off your column is indeed amusing and until now provided me with humor, but come on, your better than this drivel lets make a better attempt next time and not fall short into the trap of bigotry laced stupidity peace |
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4 Oct 2006, 02:30 AM
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![]() Mega Poster ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 2,570 Joined: 19-February 06 From: United Slaves Member No.: 27 Gender: Female |
woo they got him good. . . . .
Masha'Allah 3alaihum |
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4 Oct 2006, 10:43 AM
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I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 4,159 Joined: 17-February 06 From: Cybertron Member No.: 11 Gender: Male |
XXL has an Interscope artist on the cover every month and 50 cent on the cover at least every other month. How can they be considered an unbiased and credible publication?
The above article is so pathetic, it doesnt deserve a response. |
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4 Oct 2006, 11:41 AM
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I already thought the peep behind xxl were faggots, but after this???
Lupe IS the Future! Reprezent Islam to the fullest man Peace Out |
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8 Nov 2006, 03:05 PM
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Salaam, this sounds like a retaliatory tirade. This Crawford guy probably got put in his place by Lupe and set out to write this revenge piece. The kuffar will attack us when we slip up and they will attack us when we're on point. Who ever heard of someone being attacked for denouncing rabid consumerism, sexploitation and other vices!?!? Just leave it to the kuffar. XXL is garbage anyway--just a cheap glossy selling sex.
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25 Nov 2006, 05:54 AM
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XXL, The Source, all total ****. The only widely-selling Hip Hop mag that I know of that is worth picking up is Wax Poetics.
As for calling Rakim washed up....Rakim>Anyone on XXL's cover, ever. |
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26 Nov 2006, 04:28 AM
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As Salaamu Alaikum,
This is one of a few reasons why we need our own magazine. The kaffirs will do what kaffirs do and muslims need no part in that. SUPPORT DEEN MAGAZINE! ADD US ON MYSPACE! BUILD AND GROW WITH US INSHA'ALLAH. PEACE & BLESSINGS, Ibrahim |
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27 Nov 2006, 02:30 AM
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![]() Regular Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Egypt Member No.: 676 Gender: Male |
Brothers, e-mailing them & boycotting them is good but in such times it`s a useless effort.
when someone attacks Islam using a media I think the best way is to attack him back using our own media channels, this is a duty for every Muslim who is capable of making a media channel to reply for all hate mongers who attack Islam & Muslim Icons |
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